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we're gonna talk about the simulated

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reality

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and

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uh this crazy universe we all seem to be

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occupying at the same time

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so i got a couple articles about this

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and the the first one i'm gonna bring up

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on screen please

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there's a headline that says if we live

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in a simulation

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how much computer memory does it need oh

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we just discussed this before the show

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you can tell them all about computer

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memory i i ran out of computer memory i

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ran out of some ram and my computer was

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messing up last week if everyone

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remembers we weren't streaming

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uh to all the locations we normally

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would because i ran out of memory so if

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we live in a simulation simulation what

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do we need

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well uh storing a simulation of the

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universe is likely to require more

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memory than the average video game well

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what kind of statement is that for like

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a lead off you know

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this comes from live science

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i've never heard of life science you

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never like science life science good

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they got the best science over there

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based on what based on the one sentence

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you've read me yeah i would say no

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okay well

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uh what if we told you

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that the the world could live though i'm

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sorry what if we told you that the world

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you live in isn't real it might sound

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like a concept straight out of the kiana

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reeves science fiction favorite the

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matrix but according to some of the

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world's most

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important top minds the i that idea

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that we are living inside a

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sophisticated computer simulation is not

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only possible

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it may

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actually be more likely than the idea

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that we are living in the real world but

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like all computer programs such as such

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a complex situ uh simulation

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which would presumably include the

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entire observable universe

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would have to be stored somewhere

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intrigued by the possibility physicist

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melvin

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vopson from the university of portsmouth

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has sought to calculate just how much

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computer memory the entire universe

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would actually require

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to do this you started by first

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determining how much information there

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in a single subtonic subatomic particle

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then marked up multiplied it uh

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multiplied this by the estimate for the

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total number of particles in the

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universe

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this calculation just comes to a rather

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ridiculous 10 to the 93rd

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power of bits or

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6 million trillion trillion trillion

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trillion needed to store the entire

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universe in computer memory well i'm

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going to pause right there

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he is saying that

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according to this calculation he's

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subatomic subatomic particle is rendered

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simultaneously

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and i'm not sure if that's true he's

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calculating he's making all these

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calculations like well everything is

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rendered at the same time so therefore

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we need that much memory when i think

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the universe if it is a simulation it

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gets rendered on demand and that demand

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the conscious observable mind like us it

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gets rendered when us the observer is

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looking at it beyond that it's not

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consuming all that memory all that much

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memory so that that's a one of the

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primary ways that that developers who do

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develop video games when they're working

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on that they they save on the amount of

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memory overhead necessary they only

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render out the world that's visible yeah

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in the field of view from the point of

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view of the player character um which is

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why one of the things you could do in

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some of the older was the the

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grand theft auto games if you drove

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backwards but looked forwards the world

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hadn't rendered behind you so there was

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no traffic yeah stuff like that so

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you're right it would seem odd to say

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that every particle is rendered as its

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own bit presumably uh and thus using

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that number which is species to start

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with anyway is how they arrived at

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umpteen quadrillion trillion drilling

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whatever it was brazilians uh of of

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memory necessary

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you only ever need 640k

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that's what he said that was uh i think

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he may have changed his mind since then

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but the 600 million trillion trillion

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trillion trillion trillion trillion

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pieces of memory needed to render the

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universe i mean i don't have that much i

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only have 600 million trillion trillion

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trillion

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megabytes of ram so you need to get more

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memory today i'm a little low on my

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memory to for even my own personal

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computing needs

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so do you select what gets turned off in

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the universe you was like you know what

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south america i don't really care about

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you right now

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yeah so i i i appreciate the pr the

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approach here i just don't think he

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thought it through all the way he's he's

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he's assuming everything's an active

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memory which i don't think that it is

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um so i'll continue on here of course if

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we are living in a computer simulation

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it is likely to be one created by a much

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more advanced civilization or

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even our future selves meaning that such

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levels of computer storage

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might not be particularly excessive or

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unreachable as thing stands

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it's a bit like trying to imagine how

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the latest big budget video game which

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can exceed 100 gigabytes of size could

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be stored in the memory of an old 1980s

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baby

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that doesn't make any

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what the hell kind of reference was that

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so i think it's like they're trying to

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create an analogy they're saying we are

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like the old 1980s 8-bit home computer

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and we're like we are trying to imagine

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what it would be like to try to run

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a modern video game on the platforms we

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have and we can't we can't understand it

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we can't understand using a hundred

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gigabytes just for a game well but using

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an 8-bit computer he's mixing metaphors

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of memory and storage and memory in

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addressable storage versus now

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processing power yes exactly

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right this is like the who's who ted

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stevens it's a series of tubes it's like

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some of these analogies don't work when

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you fundamentally get it wrong to start

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you know bandwidth maximum throughput

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and bandwidth are different things you

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can't just say it's tubes let's add

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another tube so this guy's saying well

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if your nintendo in 1986 had a trillion

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trillion trillion trillion trillion bits

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of memory it could run all them no it

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these computers i'll tell you they just

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get crazier i agree alex

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my nintendo plays atari games how does

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that not work i thought it worked i

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it's all compatible

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well i i uh i just think that this

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calculation that they did was uh

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they're just not thinking through i

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understand like the the exercise that

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they tried to do here and it's like oh

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my god

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this computer that we're running in is

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is completely crazy but uh yeah like

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we're talking about like active memory

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versus what's observable

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and uh i decide there's a philosophical

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element to the simulated reality that

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they're ignoring he's mixing ram and rob

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you know active storage and accessible

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memory it's just like

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and then processing power so what so i

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see there's some there are some comments

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what are what are the first couple

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uh the uh first coming here here's my

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cynical post that contributes little to

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what i consider is an aimless thread

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loosely on a superficial article that

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a barely litter attempt to narrate some

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of the irrelevant speculations about an

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ill-considered notion derived from

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multiple hypoth hypothetical concepts

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but it taps into a fundamental

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uneasiness about ourselves our fates and

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actual uh reality of our existence

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uh were

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in is coded well enough that we can't

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good call tom 1200 for calling out this

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guy on his on his specious and spurious

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argument to start with and then pointing

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so what uh post 20 here says uh it might

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that as there is another version of the

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simulated theory where the only things

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being processed is what is being

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observed interacted with

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while the rest is just background

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stimulation for a very large and even uh

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for very large and even that

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well this is not written very well but

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that's what we're talking about

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like only the observed

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particular time

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rendered completely

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well and there might be things that are

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missing and i i brought this up like um

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like when it comes to flat versus round

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what it's programmed to be rendered but

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you know it actually might be

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flat to a certain degree in certain

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areas depending on who's observing it

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how much uh processing power is demanded

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um fascinating conversation but

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what you basically just described right

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there is compression that's how

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compression works is you you eliminate

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information that's not necessary for the

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fundamental yeah transmission of set

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information reducing colors or reducing

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depth um and yeah you could do that if

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you take a photo of a three-dimensional

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space your brain fills in the gaps to

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how the rest of it looks and how it was

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sort of thing the simulation do i need a

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if there's physically nobody on venus

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nobody on venus do we need to fully

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render venus or can we just like no

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there's a freaking thing in the sky just

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put some clouds there it's easier to

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render yeah and when any probe gets in

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there you just melt it yeah just just

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put some blobs there blobs of white

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clouds we don't got to render any

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mountains if they happen to get a probe

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in there fine we'll render some dirt for

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them or some [\h__\h]

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but beyond that they ain't getting

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anything

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uh here's another

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article

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related to the

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uh simulated reality

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and this one's titled could our universe

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be an alien science experiment

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and this comes from uh scientific

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american oh yes the scientific american

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so we have what the scientifically the

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one and only scientific american

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so we have live science doing the

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simulated reality and we got scientific

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american uh doing the alien experiment

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um

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so and these are all coming out within

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like two to three weeks of each other so

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it's all written by the same guy i don't

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know i put i you can look it up i could

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i'll well you're getting all these

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through through an uh aggregator right i

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am an aggregator but

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i'll read this here a little bit so

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scientists have speculated over the

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possibility that our entire universe may

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have been created in a laboratory there

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is so much we don't understand about the

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universe and the nature of existence

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that even attempting to comprehend how

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anything actually exists at all

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is enough to make your head hurt

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well currently while the currently

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accepted model for the birth of the

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universe is the big bang we still don't

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know

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much of anything about

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what was around before that or what

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triggered the expansion in the first

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place

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could the universe be caught in an in

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the cycle of expansion and contraction

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is our universe one of a multitude of

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other universes in the overarching

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multiverse we just don't know

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in a recent article harvard university

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astronomer uh alvi

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loeb put forward another possibility one

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that doesn't exactly help to explain the

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nature of reality but certainly makes

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for an interesting thought exercise what

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if the universe was actually created by

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an advanced extraterrestrial uh

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civilization or beings in a laboratory

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for this to be true of course there

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would need to be some other universe of

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which our universe is a part of

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or part to which it is connected one

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which these alien scientists live in

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work

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it is also likely that if this were true

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they

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universes in the same way

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but this is all this all begs the

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question how did their universe come

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about rather than solving the question

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of the origin of our universe it simply

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uh regresses the problem and

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necessitates the even more complex

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answer

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why wouldn't they just use the same wife

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yeah if our universe is created by the

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big bang and then someone says but maybe

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our universe is a simulation inside

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another universe why isn't that one just

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in us

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it is similar to the common atheist

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argument concerning the existence of god

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if god made our universe

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who made god at the end of the day the

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same question remains unanswered

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the creature

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creature and or the goblins the goblin

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now i've been

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listening to you just want to point out

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real quick that that tv show big bang

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theory uh which i'm still proud to say

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i've never seen has ruined all of my

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searches for images related to the big

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bang yeah it's [\h__\h] yes it is

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well um

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it just seems like

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they're kind of stumbling here a little

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bit i i like that they're asking these

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questions

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but and but it seems like they're

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they're really limiting

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the the scope of of their their thought

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here like if it like the previous

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article if it is a simulation and we're

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living in some sort of computer

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generated reality well then

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hypothetically there's some sort of api

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we can tap into and let's just go down

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that route like it is a simulation it's

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a very advanced simulation one which we

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all feel is real and the more you feel

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it your emotions are real you are real i

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know a lot of people don't like these

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simulated reality theory because they

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think everything is fake and it turns

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into some exercise and nihilism where

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nothing's real so i can do anything i

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want well i think the opposite approach

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where um even if it is simulated you

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feel as though it is

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real and your emotions do have a a real

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impact on your emotional well-being and

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the

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around you

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well

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if this is a a simulated

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universe inside another universe and we

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are part of that simulation

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wouldn't our simulated and created

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consciousnesses

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thus

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assume that any anything we pick up is

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real and would you know be part of that

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why why would that be different why

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would we be

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outside of the matrix if we're in the

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matrix i guess

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yeah well i think uh there are like if

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each like this universe like our section

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of the observable universe is powered by

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our own brains and like there's

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different processing powers like you can

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say like this hypothetically like our

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brain

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is part of the simulation it like this

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part of the simulation is running off

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the containers like like in our brain

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and it's fairly advanced let's just say

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it is like an i9 processor with 32

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gigabytes of ram meanwhile like little

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bugs you know they're like a raspberry

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pi you know they can do stuff and they

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can but you know it they're not

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observing as much of the universe as we

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are at one time

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and so it's like how modern-day computer

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infrastructure is deployed through

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containers and all these virtual

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environments uh ours is the same way we

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have all these different uh virtualized

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environments some with more processing

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power than others and that's exactly how

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we

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render this universe is through our

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observations

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and i think there's some sort of api

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that you can tap into by using prayer or

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ritual some people use blood sacrifice

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it's probably quick and easy dirty way

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to do it but you got to deal with the

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consequences um

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and

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then you have things like how do you

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explain paranor activity like ghosts

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maybe that's a zombie process where it

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was a process like we all are and it got

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killed off but the computer simulation

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didn't take it out so it's this

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continuing its zombie process in the

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background which we say oh my god it's a

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it's a specter it's a spirit no it's

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just a zombie process that hasn't been

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uh cleared out of the system yet you

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gotta kill that pig and it hasn't been

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killed by the main processing system the

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main process isn't that one of the

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conceits of the uh of the the world of

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there were programs that had been

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running that had been removed from the

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system but were still running and

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functionally were ghosts yeah something

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like that i don't think it's that

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far-fetched

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uh i like that they're they're

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they're touching on these things but i

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don't think they're going deep enough

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they're really just scratching the

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surface when like science talks about

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this kind of stuff or ufos they're

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really just kind of scratching the

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surface and as soon as they start to get

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to some interesting philosophical

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questions they kind of pull back a

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little bit

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and they don't they don't want to go too

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far

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um like there's like a theory like

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each black hole

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that is out there in our universe

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actually kicks off a new universe like

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if you could go through and like go

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through that black hole and live you

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would wind up in a new universe that's

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the theory i don't know i don't know how

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you can prove that maybe through some

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kind of mathematical

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theorem or

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something i don't know but i mean that's

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one thing you're just going through a

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black hole just you just go in there and

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just find out

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just just yell back what you saw yeah

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